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  • "has not connected for last 30 days"

    We started getting this message a few days ago. We are on a Humax series 2 with lifetime service, and we have a network connection.

    When we do the "connect now," everything appears to work correctly. There are no error messages. The last connect date is current and the status is successful.

    There is no behavior that would seem to point to a possible hardware problem. Everything else, such as watching programs in the play list, deleting and restoring them, etc. seems to work. It is possible to do a manual record giving the time and channel of the record.

    But everywhere the system would require the program schedule, such as live TV guide, Find Programs by name, etc. we get the message "not connected for 30 days."

    We have been working with TiVo support. So far they have suggested forcing the connect, turning the system off and rebooting and forcing the connect again, doing a guided setup with a different zipcode and then again with our current zipcode. Right now my husband is doing the "delete and clear everything" to try to start over from scratch.

    TiVo support has pretty much said if everything they suggest fails, blame the box.

    Is there any way this could be a hardware problem? We would consider spending the $149 to have the box repaired, but it would be a waste of money if Weaknees says everything tests out fine on their end.

    Any suggestion of possible source for this problem? Could it be a software problem on TiVo's end? Could it be a hardware problem and we should consider sending it in?

    Thanks!

    Mary

  • #2
    That's almost definitely a bad hard drive. I suspect you might not even get through your current reset. In any event, a "replace" kit for your model should fix your problem:

    http://www.weaknees.com/tivo-upgrade.php
    Been here a long time . . .

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    • #3
      I don't think it is a bad hard drive problem. I upgraded my Humax drt800 several years ago to get more capacity. I also have received this error message and spent a couple of weeks trying everything. As a last resort I reinstalled my old Humax harddrive, did the full setup and got the same error message. I doubt if both hard drives have failed simultaneously.

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      • #4
        So did it come out of the current reset - the newer drive?
        Been here a long time . . .

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        • #5
          I don't understand your question.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by nthdegree View Post
            I don't understand your question.
            You said:


            Right now my husband is doing the "delete and clear everything" to try to start over from scratch.
            in your original message . . .
            Been here a long time . . .

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            • #7
              I apologize, I didn't remember that I had posted here. Just to follow up, when this problem first started in December, the Tivo Service Level was set to "I" instead of "C" which we think was causing the error messages. When my husband did the complete "delete and clear everything," then it came back with the Tivo Service Level set to "A" and we started getting messages to activate our service, even though we have product lifetime. At this point we could no longer manual record or do anything. Tivo did not know what was wrong or how to fix it.

              It turned out a lot of other customers with our box were complaining about the same problem at about the same time. Many of them posted on the tivo.com forum. http://forums.tivo.com/pe/action/for...ageId=10432560 Tivo 2nd level customer support called us back on December 30th saying that after getting complaints from other owners the same box, they had a fix for it and to power cycle and connect, and everything was fine. The other members on that forum said their systems were fixed on December 30th as well.

              Now we, as well as many of the members of the same forum thread got the same symptoms around the 1st or 2nd week of February, only this time Tivo would not cooperate and starting blaming the Humax hardware crypto chip. I have been trying to get some kind of confirmation from Humax that this is the case, since it seems to behave so much like a software problem, to me and to the reps I talk to at Humax. We are kind of at an impasse at this moment with Tivo blaming Humax's crypto chip and Humax apparently never having heard of the issue. I am escalating it at Humax to see where that leads.

              Every day my Tivo connects, and it is maintaining 2 weeks worth of data, and for now I am manually recording everything. The "Tivo Service Level" remains "I:-".

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              • #8
                I'm new to Tivo, but I was under the impression that a Service Level of I indicates "Inactive". It sounds like Tivo somehow "forgot" your account information.

                I could be off-base here, but I think if you can get your account corrected, you'll be all set.

                As a software engineer, Tivo's answer that it is a hardware problem that affected hundreds of units at the same time (and after software changes) does not seem right.

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                • #9
                  I think "I" stands for Interrupted, and it is at least one of the possibly multiple conditions that triggers the message "Tivo Service Interrupted. The recorder has not connected to Tivo in over 30 days."

                  And as a software engineer as well as a software test engineer, here is my biggest gripe over this whole thing: Why Not Have the Error Message Tell the Real Reason There is a Problem???

                  I have seen numerous posts in the various forums over this error message, and the one common theme is it comes on suddenly, and the recorder HAS connected in the last 30 days, probably that very day. If you are an ongoing Tivo user who hadn't connected in 30 days, you would have been out of data for about 16 days and would undoubtedly have already gotten messages to that effect long before seeing this condition legitimately.

                  So how much time gets wasted by customers, forum participants, Tivo customer service, having people power cycle and force connections and do guided setups and just basically try everything you can think of, maybe replace your hard drive, maybe exchange your unit to fix a problem for which the error message is blatantly lying about what the problem is?

                  Why not save people a lot of wasted time by having a meaningful error message for what is causing this error and display THAT message when the condition is encountered.

                  So this is a software bug in the error handling. Their software testers should have written a bug report to that effect, and it should have been fixed in a way earlier release, as it was seen in the release 7 installation. It showed up when units failed to successfully install software upgrades.

                  And the message was as unhelpful then as it is now.

                  To quote my husband, I wish I had the hours back of my life that I have spent trying things and trying to communicate with Tivo and Humax and still getting this error and still not knowing why.

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